Here's the Newegg link for $350: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811163416, And the Amazon link for $365: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W8KC3PY/. That's certainly a much better price. The design goal is to build a storage and application server that is compact, capable, quiet, and low power (relatively speaking). But most reviews for the sub $200 4U cases listed cons I wasn't willing to accept. The 9211-8i is supposed be 7w, and 9240-8i is 13.5w according to Broadcom's spec sheets. Currently building two servers in cs381, one main and one backup. I run my fans at low rpm for noise reasons, so my drives do run a little warm. Like, with hot-swap bays and the like, I can understand something in the high 100s/low 200s, but $300+? I have a Silverstone CS381 case and the case is bad. SilverStone DS380 The SilverStone DS380 offers unbelievable storage space and versatility in a small form factor. It's a lot more expensive than I was expecting. I like Silverstone stuff, but not that much. Designed to house a Micro-ATX motherboard, the SilverStone CS381 NAS Chassis gives users a wide array of hardware options that includes support for 3.5” or 2.5” drive in SATA or SAS format, high-end graphics card, and RAID cards. Have never worked with hotswap bays before, so any recommendations or thoughts on good hardware to pair with the case would be greatly appreciated! You get what you pay for. A community based around the building, set up, and use of home servers for a variety of purposes. It'll go in a Silverstone CS381 case, and I don't see any direct air flow over the PCIe x16 slot (where the SAS card will go) with the default 2x 120mm fans. The Milo 10 is the smallest model yet for the Milo series of slim HTPC chassis. I built my NAS using the Silverstone CS380, more or less a full ATX case w/ 8 front hot swap bays. Overall it is a sleek chassis that is a tad reminiscent of Silverstone's Fortress series just smaller and with current design trends in mind. Designed to house a Micro-ATX motherboard, it gives users a wide array of hardware options that includes robust backplanes to support nearly all 3.5” or 2.5” HDD / SSD in either SATA or SAS format. The CS381 Micro-ATX case is geared more towards storage. CPU cooling is being handled by a Corsair H100i platinum, and the pump runs at max. With the ability to accommodate standard components such as ATX motherboards, standard ATX (PS2) power supplies, dual 5.25" drive bays, standard-sized expansion cards, and even liquid coolers, the CS380 can easily meet the demands for majority of NAS builds. They have whole series of storage cases: https://www.silverstonetek.com/product_case.php?tno=16&tb=119&area=en, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I am going to upgrade the HBA with some active cooling, since that seems to be the biggest heat generator I have left to cool. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. However, I'm tempted to get one and build out a new server to replace my Node 304. Overall it is a sleek chassis that is a tad reminiscent of Silverstone's Fortress series just smaller and with current design trends in mind. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It offers 8x 3.5" or 2.5" hot-swap drive bays along with two more 2.5" bays for good measure. I currently only have Shinobi CCTV and OctoPrint dockers installed, but will be slowly adding more functionality as time allows :). Amazon is currently out of stock, but Newegg has it in stock. Despite a volume of just 28 liters, it can fit a wide range of components, including eight 3.5" drives in the external hot-swap bays, as well as a 240mm liquid cooling radiator for … But the price is $400 USD. I think I found the case I’ve been searching for for so long. Designed to be as compact as possible for being a standard Mini-ITX chassis without sacrificing too much compatibility, the Milo 10 has a modular design that allows for it to grow in size if needed. SilverStone CS381 12 Drive mATX NAS Chassis. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Frankly, with what I have done with the Silverstone case, my HDD temps are overall lower than in the prior Lian-Li case. SilverStone is targeting this market with its new CS381 pedestal chassis. Could be misremembering though. Absolutely. Not new you can't. With that in mind, this is the part list I went with: Motherboard Buzzer: TOTO Motherboard Mini Speaker, RAM: Crucial Ballistix 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 2666, Case Thumbscrews: Circotech 6-32 Thumbscrews, PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 450 GM 80 Plus Gold (450W), HDD: WD Red 3TB CMR x5 + WD Red 4TB CMR x1 (Existing), USB Flash Drive: Kingston DataTraveler SE9 16GB USB 2.0 DTSE9H (Existing), 10GbE NIC: Mellanox ConnectX-3 MCX311A-XCAT x2 (the 2nd one is for my desktop PC), 10GbE Switch: MikroTik 5-Port CRS305-1G-4S+IN, SFP+ Cable: Cable Matters 10GBASE-CU SFP+ DAC Cable x2, Mini SAS Cable: Mini SAS SFF-8643 to Mini SAS SFF-8087 x2, USB 2.0 Header Cable: CY 50cm USB 2.0 Header Cable. If you have the space and $100 more dollars I'd consider Silverstone's CS381 which is a mATX NAS case with 8 hot swap that looks like its designed much better. Would it be nice if it were cheaper? I have a couple of complaints about lack of airflow. After going back through the photos, we wanted to highlight the CS381 specifically. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Nice! I was checking out the RM21-308 (https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=843&area=en) which is a short 19" RackMount Case, with similar specs (mATx, 8x3.5" + 2x2.5"). Should I put a 40mm fan over the SAS card's heatsink? I was also looking forward to that case, but that price is way to high unfortunately. We are posting this SilverStone CS381 (SST-CS381B) mini-review today, as this has been a hotly anticipated product at STH.Ever since we first saw the Silverstone CS381 8-bay mATX case at Computex 2018, this is one we have wanted.This case fits a mATX motherboard, 8x hot-swap bays, and has 4x internal bays for SSDs. https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=843&area=en. Total came out to just under $1700, including everything on the part list except the HDDs, since I already had them. 1) I see Silverstone them self has the cable but its not in stock anywhere at all in Europe and I am not paying another 180 USD for 2 cables when the box already costs 370 plus USD (tax and import toll to Europe from the US) SilverStone CPS05-RE INTRODUCTION I actually finished this build in May, but only now got around to posting it :) I've seen a ton of Unraid and homelab builds, and seems like most people go with either a server chassis or a Fractal case. i think i paid $120 for it. SilverStone Milo Series Milo 10. There is no way they will sell at that price and the prices will drop. I've been looking to move to this sort of build for a little while. Here's more on the SilverStone CS381 and our build with using a Ryzen 5 3400G that is playing well under Linux with an ASUS B450 motherboard. Just noticed that Silverstone's SST-CS381B is now listed on both Amazon and Newegg. My CS381 arrived today. How are you powering them? I think 200-250 tops is way more reasonable for that chassis. It also starts to become available (in Europe) for ~300 Euros, so 50 Euro cheaper and has a smaller volume with 18.2 L vs 28.4L for the CS381. Silverstone CS381 Case ASRock Rack E3C236D2I Intel E3-1275v6 4 Core 8 Threads (onboard iGfx) 32gb crucial 2400 ECC memory 10x Seagate NAS drives (4TB) 4x Western Digital drives (10TB) 6x Samsung Evo 860 (250G) FreeNAS 11.3-U1 While we have tested dozens of SilverStone computer cases over the years at Phoronix, they have generally been phenomenal desktop cases, but not until now have we had a chance to see what innovations the company can drive into server/workstation-focused 4U enclosures. The SilverStone CS381 would be a good fit, but most other server options would either be mITX, ATX, or larger; mATX is not the industry’s focus at this point. Corsair SF 450 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply. In this article is a look at the SilverStone Case Storage Series CS350. Most people will take the whole system (r520 or old supermicro or whatever), but for people looking for a a nice case with hotswap bays for their epyc/scalable build, 350 isn't that bad. Loving the case so far. Would love to see a parts list and pics when you’re done! Other features include: This particular case is expensive because of it has 8x hot swappable bays with SAS backplanes. Once again we feel somewhat compelled to label the X570D4U-2L2T a “DIY server motherboard.” Press J to jump to the feed. Primary use is media storage, security camera video storage, backup destination, home automation, as well as serving as an application server for running various Dockers. For the cache pool, I'm running the two 1TB NVMe SSDs in btrfs RAID 1 for redundancy (I also backup my Docker appdata nightly, since they live on the SSDs). Press J to jump to the feed. They sit at around low 30s at idle and during parity check or rebuild where all disks are working, they can go up to low to mid 40s. Price ain't right though, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Silverstone does make cheaper cases with SATA backplanes like the CS380. I came from a 4-Bay QNAP, and have decided to build something that is a bit more capable. Currently I have everything running off my main desktop in a bigass case, which I want to downsize back to something more reasonable.My question is, WHY are all of these NAS-style cases so damn expensive? I’m also running the CS381. Silverstone CS381 NAS Case now for sale! Niche? I also got a device that converts the 2 external 3.5 into 3 SATA hot swap bays so i have a total of 11 hot swap. I settled on Unraid because of its flexibility in storage expansion, excellent Docker and VM support, as well as a robust community app store. I came from a 4-Bay QNAP, and have decided to build something that is a bit more capable. As you can see, … I agree that 350 is steep and that there are certainly better deals out there but this is the standard market price for new rack mount cases with new hotswap capable backplanes with similar capacities. I feel like in my research on that case a long time ago I saw a number of issues with temperature. Any heat issues with your drives? Not really no. I'm using a CS380 with XPEnology for my secondary storage server. Why is the silverstone CS381 so expesnive compared to the other silver stone cases, and any suggestions for any alternatives? Do you have a ballpark price on what all this cost you? The CS381 Micro-ATX case is geared more towards storage. Just noticed that Silverstone's SST-CS381B is now listed on both Amazon and Newegg. There are also not very many purpose-built mATX server chassis on the market today. Jeeze thats overpriced. Sorry for the post, been utterly confusing myself of late and it's for cable/card types i've never used before, so i'd like someone to check this will likely work :) Case i've ordered is the Silverstone CS381 chassis. If you have a micro board, i recommend u-nas 810A for 8 hot-swap bays. At idle with all disks spun down, the whole box draws less than 40W. Because I was somewhat curious myself, I poked most of what he listed into pcpartpicker. Not going back to non quickswap bay cases for nas ever again. https://preview.redd.it/rql4ebhvoe851.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=b93ac5bbf949f51b8eeb65d503b0351b1f02491f. The SilverStone CS381 is a high-performance NAS chassis based on the micro-ATX form factor. 2. Pull that backplane and replace the front assembly with some basic hdd cages and you cut the price in half or more. Airflow is definitely a challenge in this case. This is only a 30-liter chassis that supports Micro-ATX, Mini-DTX and Mini-ITX motherboards and up to 12 hard drives. Absolutely. If the OP really wants that chassis, I'd hold off a few months. Be sure to post your build when you are done :). Measuring 400mm (W) x 225mm (H) x 232mm (D), with a volume of 30 liters, the case offers eight 3.5-inch hot-swap caddies behind a lockable front bezel. Welcome to your friendly /r/homelab, where techies and sysadmin from everywhere are welcome to share their labs, projects, builds, etc. Hmm... giving me ideas.. been thinking about rebuilding my storage/backup server. Das CS381 mit seiner beispielloser Raumausnutzung wurde von SilverStone zur Erfüllung der Anforderungen von Enthusiasten entwickelt, die nach einem kompakten, flexiblen NAS-Gehäuse. To fulfill the needs of enthusiasts looking for a compact, flexible NAS tower chassis, SilverStone designed the CS380. This case seems overpriced, I won't be able to get my cooler to work with U-NAS (ILM 2011), and I'd like to use better videocard for HTPC/gaming. SilverStone did include an ATX PSU adapter, allowing you to use this PSU in a full sized chassis. I'm running dual parity (4TB + 3TB), which gives me an array size of 12TB (3TB x4). During our brief Silverstone CS381 booth visit, we saw a number of exciting products. Its small, its quiet, and the cables are top quality. The parity drive is 7200 RPM so it … This isn't Silverstone charging an unfair premium, but rather people's price expectations being poorly calibrated or spoiled by the surplus enterprise market. Size, airflow, available parts, quality etc. Title: Multi-CS381-Manual.ai Author: shadow Created Date: 6/11/2019 1:49:59 PM I ended up adding some Noctua 80mm slim fans to the front mesh, pulling air into the HDD stacks. Rated 5 out of 5 by Benji1337 from What I was looking for I would say that I got what I was looking for with this case. Without the storage/unraid license, everything new, that's about $1200 US. Silverstone CS380 I was looking at getting a 4U rack mount case for a future rack. Most of the cost in items like this is in the hotswap feature. The Grandia GD10, along with GD09, is a culmination of SilverStone’s decade-long experience in HTPC case design and manufacturing into a product that every PC enthusiast can enjoy. Thanks to its mini-ITX design, it's under 22 liters, and yet it supports a total of 12 drives, with 8 hot-swappable 3.5” or 2.5” SAS/SATA and 4 fixed 2.5” drives. I also wanted 10GBe so that the network interface won't be a bottleneck between the Unraid server and my desktop PC. Silverstone CS381 8-bay mATX at Computex 2018. currently its in a generic case with a lsi hba passed through esxi to a WinServer with Storage Spaces vm. To fulfill the needs of enthusiasts looking for a compact, flexible NAS tower chassis, silverstone designed the CS380. I went with the Ryzen 3900x for my build, and 8TB disks. Is Silverstone screwing anyone on the price? SilverStone CS381 Micro-ATX Case [Supports 12 Drive Bays, Hot Swap Drive Bays, Door Lock] SilverStone CS381 is a compact High-Performance NAS Chassis that comes with some extra features. This seems to be the right case. You can get an entire Supermicro 4U system w/ 36 HDD caddies on eBay for that much. It is also completely silent to my ears despite being at ear level about 4 feet away. I settled on Unraid because of its flexibility in storage expansion, excellent Docker and VM support, as well as a robust community app store. It's part of why the market is so small: why buy a new case for 300 plus when you can get a whole (few generations old) system for that price? ( https://i.imgur.com/wx6r83u.jpeg) My side intake fans are Noctua PPC 3000 120mm fans. 9900K in it. I've never actually seen anyone do a build with the Silverstone CS381, which is a pretty unique case IMHO. SilverStone SST-CS381 Mid Tower MicroATX/Mini-DTX/Mini-ITX, 2x120mm Fans, 8x 2.5"/3.5" Hot Swap Bays, 2x USB3.1 is rated 5.0 out of 5 by 1. The Silverstone CS381 is designed to slot above that chassis with the ability to scale to a more powerful system. I am also looking forward to build a Ryzen 3900x system. I love that case, I think I’ll probably go with it for my next build. All discussion is welcome! Here we have the layout of the PSU. Amazon is currently out of stock, but Newegg has it in stock. I built my unRAID server back in January, using the CS381 chassis. It offers 8x 3.5" or 2.5" hot-swap drive bays along with two more 2.5" bays for good measure. That case could replace my DS380 and probably 3D print a caddy for 2.5 SSD. Since I was already familiar with the DS380 and it's easily solvable airflow issues, I decided to get the CS380 for $125. Power Supply. I've never actually seen anyone do a build with the Silverstone CS381, which is a pretty unique case IMHO. What are you running and how is the power usage? Its a cool case, too many screws but! Silverstone CS381 Corsair SF Platinum 450W PSU SuperMicro X11-LNF4 64GB ECC RAM Intel 2126G CPU 8 X 10TB WD NAS (Shucked) 2 X 400GB Samsung SAS SSDs 2 X Intel 905P Optane SSDs 2 X 16GB USB Flash Drives (mirrored boot) LSI 9207-4i4e SAS HBA With the ability to accommodate standard components such as ATX motherboards, standard ATX (PS2) power supplies, dual 5.25" drive bays, standard-sized expansion cards, and even liquid coolers, the CS380 can easily meet the demands for majority of NAS builds. Will start building in 4h :D. Keep us posted and have fun with it! I need something else 8x 8GB harddisks are producing a lot of heat and this case makes it impossible to cool hard disks other than to close all holes for ventilation to force air over the hard disks. Cool idea on the intake fans! 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